Host: Dou Wentao
Guests: He Bing, Liang Wendao, Xu Zidong
This episode feels almost like an exclusive interview with He Bing, with three fans sitting next to him. Teacher Xu took advantage of every opportunity to discuss the TV plot, which was really funny. ?
I gained a lot from this episode, so I specially organized my notes. ?
When a person makes an action, he will have this emotion. A good actor should avoid emotions. It is terrible to perform emotionally. You can't be excited when acting, as over time you will rely on this emotion. Acting is not about emotions, it's about behavior, it's about movements. In life, even if a person has emotions, the first thing to do is to control the emotions, not to release them. Shedding tears is now the highest standard of aesthetics. Some TV dramas are very noisy, with men crying for father and mother, men shouting and women crying. In some shows, the audience signs up to cry before going on to the next show. Foreigners don’t do this. They just “have something to say.”
Living today, there is a concept of comfort zone in psychology. The aesthetic you like, the lifestyle you like, the tone you like, in this era when so many idiots come out, How can we live in harmony with our appearance?
One of my favorites at work is the movie "Twelve Citizens". From the work to the results, except for the poor income, it meets all my imagination of this profession. TV dramas, especially TV dramas, basically consume everyone's energy and do something not very good. All the preparations were not done, the script was not good, the actors were not prepared, and nothing was prepared for Fu Huadao. We just have to wait for the time, it is such a very exhausting job. Because I haven't experienced anything that prepared me, but Citizen 12 prepared me. I think that in all things, what you call pain is fighting an unprepared battle. No one wants the outcome to be bad, but they are not prepared for a battle. Not a single soldier has a gun, bullets, or anything, so they charge forward. You rushed forward without even tying your shoelaces. How could you not be afraid? How could you not lose your temper? This contradiction has been transformed. Most conflicts arise from not being ready to get angry with others. When everyone is ready for this matter, what they say is meaningful, and I definitely know what is going on, everyone can run away, and many problems can be avoided.
Do you think we will be abandoned by the times?
You may have this anxiety, feeling that you will eventually be abandoned by the times. This day has been seen and is coming soon. As for acting, it is composed of one destiny, two luck, three feng shui, four accumulation of yin virtues and five studies, but it cannot withstand the general trend. The 1980s were about telling stories honestly. But it will not continue in the future.
Would you compromise for something you don’t want to do, but for the sake of making a living, for acting, or for a more important goal? Some people will never compromise. I follow my truth, kindness and beauty, and I don’t follow many evil spirits. I feel like I have passed away.
I will work relentlessly. Acting is my profession and my passion, and I cannot give up. In fact, many of them are screwed up and I don’t like anything about the script. Times are changing now. This is a very profound issue. The concept of honor and disgrace is also changing. Things that used to be embarrassing are now very honorable. The entire cultural atmosphere issue is whether everyone is in a polite and appreciative mood. Everyone has a soul and a heart. If today is a show, no one is stupid, everyone can feel the author. If it is sincere and polite, everyone will not be alone, otherwise there is no way. Across a screen, the temperature is gone, the communication is gone, and the breath is gone.
It’s a struggle to do a lot of things today. Can you stay in your comfort zone and not go out?
If you stay in your comfort zone, your comfort zone will gradually decrease, and you will eventually degenerate yourself into a baby state. Because if you don’t advance, you will retreat, and you spoil yourself too much.
Danger means progress. At the age of 50, I can do things I have never done before. If you're embarrassed, just throw it away. Tolstoy said: No matter how great a writer is, he is only writing one side of himself. If a great writer is like this, who am I? I’m not here to act perfect, I’m here to experience it, and maybe I’ll make progress after experiencing it. Just do something you haven't done before. Be bold.
Regarding work, the sculptor Rodin said, what is art? Work, only work, from the time you wake up in the morning, until you fall asleep at night, without any works, without any fame, without any art, just keep working, as long as you keep working.
Take risks to break through the existing habits, even the style, route, words and art of creation. There is a term called late style, which refers to the eccentric works produced by great artists in their later years, which are completely different from those in their prime. They are very struggling and are meant to break through what was done before.
How to distinguish between adhering to principles and not leaving the comfort zone? What if I don’t do something because I have a set of value judgments and feel that I can’t do it? Is the distinction between the two blurry?
Great performing artists do not like TV dramas. Lu Qi, no one knows how glorious he was on the stage. All we can remember is the old editor in "The Story of the Editorial Department". He is famous for filming this. Teacher Zhu Xu's "Mutiny" and "Major Barbara" are simply great. You haven't seen it, but you know "Face". This is the danger zone, and it is precisely through the danger zone that they despise that we bring them results. Dong Xingji has only one well-documented film "Liao Zhongkai", except for the dubbing of "Luotuo Xiangzi". These are all New Media and have nothing to do with the stage.
Maybe you can only see your craftsmanship when you go to a dangerous zone. Exploring the boundaries of your comfort zone, the punch that knocks out your opponent is often punched by your left hand, which you are not good at.