The company doesn't have a payroll and a payroll, just ask you to sign it. Is it illegal for the company to do so?

This behavior of the company is illegal. In fact, the payroll is what we often say, and there are various detailed wage components on the payroll. In fact, in reality, many companies are reluctant to issue payslips, and some workers will not take the initiative to ask the company for payslips.

The main reason why the company is unwilling to give it.

1, salary is confidential.

Many companies' salaries are confidential, so they don't want to give employees payslips to avoid employees looking at each other's salary details, so employees will compare with each other and easily cause psychological imbalance.

2. Reduce disputes.

Many companies deliberately do not pay wages, because the social security and provident fund paid are not paid according to wages. At the same time, if there is any dispute, the standard for calculating economic compensation and compensation shall be based on the wages payable. Because there is no payroll, it is difficult for workers to calculate the specific amount. Although there is running water in the bank, the wages paid by the bank will definitely be less than the wages payable, so it is more difficult for employees to appeal when they go to labor arbitration.

The main reason why workers don't want it.

1, employees are afraid of trouble.

Because under normal circumstances, you have to go to the company's human resources department to get the salary slip in person and sign it at the same time, and the human resources department of some companies is far from the employees' jobs, which is more troublesome;

2. I feel that the salary slip is useless.

Because workers themselves can basically figure out how much money they earn a month, as long as they almost feel that there is nothing to support, and there is no need to go to court anyway.

In fact, this idea is not good for workers. If there is no pay slip at that point, it will be inconvenient for them to complain. At the same time, there is no labor contract, and the salary slip can also be used as important evidence for the determination of labor relations. Therefore, Lao Liu in the workplace suggested that we should take the initiative to ask the enterprise for a salary slip if the enterprise does not give it to us.

Knowing the salary details is the employee's right and the company's obligation.

The salary of employees will generally be fixed salary+performance reward+subsidy-fine-social security-taxes and fees. In addition to the fixed amount of the project, there are some variable amounts. The actual salary paid by employees is the actual result after these additions and subtractions. If there are no details, it is impossible for employees to know how their wages are obtained, even if they make mistakes. According to relevant national standards, enterprises must provide employees with payslips. If it is not provided, employees have the right to ask for it, and the company cannot refuse to provide it.

Solving this kind of thing needs to be divided into different situations and see what kind of motivation the company has.

As for things like payslips, although the company's approach is wrong, it is not easy to solve in actual work scenarios. A friend of mine forgot to give him a pay slip for financial reasons, so he sent a message and asked for it once. The finance told him impatiently that he was very busy. After several days, he still gave it every time, and he couldn't help sending another message. Fortunately, he gave it this time.

If, like my friend, he is just financially lazy and unwilling to pay back, he will take the initiative and have a better attitude. Who asked us to work here? The financial situation is not good. If this is not the case, the form that the company wants you to sign is only your signature, and there is no other amount, or there is an amount hidden from you, then you should pay attention. It is likely that the company has tampered with your salary, either deducting more money or inflating expenses to reduce the company tax.

If we don't delve into it from the legal point of view, it has certain advantages to pay wages in this way.

In particular, employees who retire from the company or retire from illness do not need to go to the unit to sign every month. Although there is no signature, the trace left by the salary is more real than the signature. No one can change the salary paid to you, when to transfer money and when to receive it.

In fact, the paycheck is just a formality. As long as the unit and employees build enough trust, the unit will do the work in detail, and it is not illegal to have no salary, but it is more and more accepted and recognized by employees.